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Where Have All the Catholics Gone?

 

We just followed along, confident that we were being led to Heaven.

That’s what we talked about then, Heaven and Purgatory, and what we had to do to reach the one and shorten the other. We shuddered to think about Hell, and so we didn’t talk about it much either. We just set about working out our salvation with fear and trembling, like St. Paul told us to do. All for the love of Jesus, the Glory of God, and the Salvation of souls, we used to say.

 

 

…The Catholic Schools?

Consider the first obstacle. Too many years of agnostic priests and professors telling us that we don’t really know anything about Heaven has dampened supernatural faith and hope. Nothing seems clear. Questions aren’t answered; doubts are not dispelled. Retreats, religious education lectures, and classroom discussions often go something like this:

“Is Heaven a place?” a student asks.

The pedant-in-charge shakes his head, but says nothing. He strokes his chin and lowers his lids, pondering the question. Everyone waits.

“It is a state of being,” he says at last, carefully, as if he were imparting a deep truth.

The student persists. “But what does that mean?”

“We’re not really sure.”

The student sighs. He turns his head, looks out the window, and never brings it up again.

 

 

…The Catholic Identity?

I’ve heard this sort of thing too many times. No sooner spoken, but the words evaporate, portentous as thin smoke. Nothing adheres to the mind; nothing cleaves to the soul.

Enough of this nonsense. Of course Heaven is a place, and those in authority should say so, loud and clear. What this supernatural place is like is beyond our imagination, but that doesn’t mean it’s not real. It is above nature, incorruptible; its substance endures forever.

I mean, come on, if Heaven is not a place, then where is Our Lord? What does He see through His beautiful eyes, and what does He touch with his Wounded Hands? And just where is Our Lady, the Immaculate Conception, she who was assumed body and soul into Heaven?

They’re not floating in some ethereal mist. We’re talking physical presence here. Someday, when we behold our King and Queen reigning gloriously in Heaven, it’s real faces we’ll see, real voices we’ll hear.

The denial of the substantial reality of Heaven shatters one doctrine after another. If Heaven is not a place, what about the Resurrection of the Body? Aren’t we supposed to get our bodies back on Judgment Day? Our own blood and bones? Our own fingers and toes? That’s what the Church teaches. That’s what we believe. But where would these glorified bodies go?

Ah, so that’s not so certain either, then.

The Incarnation, the Ascension, and the Second Coming are all called into question. We wind up with some sort of esoteric blather about the Next Life. They tell us we have to have faith that life goes on after death, we’re just not sure how. Perhaps it’s a spiritual immortality, unencumbered by flesh. Who knows?

 

 

The second obstacle to open discussion about salvation is the problem of sin and its consequences. Christ died for our sins. Everybody repeats the formula, but do the words really sink in? Does anyone realize why?

To save us from Hell. That’s why. That’s what salvation is. To rescue us from damnation. If we’re not saved, we’re damned. It’s as simple as that.

I’m afraid people don’t fear Hell anymore. They reject the whole idea. It’s just too preposterous for the modern mind; the image doesn’t hold. Flames and darkness and the stench of sulfur—who believes that?

But Hell exists. It is real. And it is eternal.

Imagine the very worst pain, the worst sorrow, the worst regret you’ve ever experienced. Feel again the anguish, the bitterness, the most soul-wrenching loneliness you’ve ever felt. That’s only a glimmer of what Hell is like, and sin consigns one there.

Yet we can’t talk about sin. We must not be judgmental. Let’s not mention the Commandments. It’s as if sin didn’t exist. You’d think the priests had all become Rogerian psychologists. By practicing unconditional positive regard, negativity dissolves, and a beautiful flower grows from the depths of the perfect human heart, rather like a modern version of Rousseau’s Noble Savage. No taint of original sin for them. It’s all good.

And what’s the effect of denying evil? Perdition, that’s what.

Think of all the things people accept now. Things we used to call Mortal Sins—mortal, because they would kill us. The Church used to warn us about them, so we would not be lost, but there’s a lot of silence now.

The biggest one is artificial contraception. I’ll never forget what happened the Sunday after Humanae Vitae was issued. The encyclical was front page news in the local paper. A lengthy article quoted a whole slew of theologians who stated with seeming authority that the teaching was not infallible. People could make up their own minds about it. They were responsible adults.

Curious, I thought, as we went to Mass, expecting to hear true Church teaching. But the priest didn’t even mention the encyclical, and not the next week, either, nor the next. Later we learned that even bishops had rejected it, and Rome did nothing. The dissent stood. No one talked about it. Family planning was a private matter, after all. What did celibate priests know about marriage? they asked.

So people did what seemed right in their own eyes. There were no repercussions. In all these years, I have never heard a priest say from the pulpit that a woman can’t go to Communion if she’s on the pill, or heard a priest talk about the evil of sterilization, the death blow to the body, the infamous mutilation of the flesh.

They are reluctant to talk about the perversion of homosexuality, even in the face of all the scandals. They don’t talk about adultery or fornication or covetousness or theft. Lying? No, not a word.

They rarely speak about the beauty of Heaven, the suffering in Purgatory, or the burning pain of Hell. Imagine that. Nobody mentions that we may not all wind up in the same place. There are no warning signs. I guess there’s nothing to worry about.

Is everyone saved? Is no one lost?

The pedant speaks again:

“Jesus is so merciful,” he says with a wave of his hand. “He couldn’t bear to send anyone to Hell.”

“But don’t you have to do anything to go to Heaven?” an innocent student asks. “Don’t you have to be worthy?”

The pedant rolls his eyes.

The boy persists. “You have to be baptized, right? You have to be Catholic.”

Another student pipes up. “Since the Church is the Mystical Body of Christ, don’t the sacraments change us? Make us fit for Heaven?”

The pedant lifts his chin. His gray eyes are distant, as if he sees beyond the room, beholding something no one else can see. He inhales, deeply, through his nose.

“One must not be divisive,” he says, then expounds at length upon the new understanding, the probability of universal salvation. There is invincible ignorance, after all, and the whole idea of the unconscious Christian. And then there are those near-death experiences that seem to point to a pleasant afterlife for everyone. There’s no sense talking about it, he concludes.

But I say we must.

 

Why won’t the Magisterium clear the fog? Why won’t the priests and bishops just say: Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation. Scared, are they? Afraid to offend the infidels? Or worse, have they lost the Faith?

Regardless of that, the doctrine is true.

Let me tell you what that teaching meant to me a long time ago, when I was just a little girl. It was nothing less than an invitation from Heaven.

I was not born Catholic, although I didn’t quite understand that. After all, I knew the Nicene Creed by heart and dutifully recited it at Christ Episcopal Church, proudly proclaiming my belief in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. I was no Protestant, that was for sure. But it took my fourth grade Catholic friends to set me firmly on the Road to Salvation.

We used to stand in a circle at recess at Southwestern School, hoping the teacher wouldn’t notice and make us play kickball or Red Rover or some other boring game. We had important things to discuss. There were five of us—Dolores, Mary Kay, Anne, Barbara, and me.

Sometimes it was really cold. The snow banked over our saddle shoes, and we huddled together, pulling our coats close and shivering like crazy. But I hardly noticed. Those girls told me the most astonishing things. Things I had never heard before. Things about the Other World. I could have listened to them forever. They had funny words like Purgatory and Limbo and indulgences. They actually believed in Hell. The devil was real, they said.

My friends knew all sorts of things about Heaven. It was amazing. It was like they shared some secret knowledge. There was no doubt in their minds that Heaven was a place, and they talked about it as if they had been there. I clamored to know more.

They looked at each other, shook their heads, then looked sadly at me.

“But you can’t go to Heaven,” they said.

“Why not?”

“’Cause you’re not Catholic.”

“What do I have to do to be Catholic?”

“You have to go to Catechism.”

Those words struck my heart like an arrow. Even though I was not able to actually “go to Catechism” until I was a sophomore in college, I made up my mind right then. I would be Catholic. A real one, not just one saying the Nicene Creed in the whitewashed Episcopal Church, wondering how I could believe in the One Holy Catholic Church and not be in it.

Those nine-year-old girls possessed the Truth, and they didn’t hesitate to let me know it. They told me what was necessary for salvation because I was their friend. They didn’t dilute the doctrine. I didn’t need to know about the exceptions. I just needed to be Catholic.

Please spare me the nuances. They exist, I understand that. There can be people in Heaven that we didn’t think would be there. That’s good. I have no idea how the Lord goes about rescuing people at the last minute who didn’t enter the Church during their life. I don’t pretend to know how grace burns the unbelief from their minds before their souls depart this world, but I don’t have to know those extraordinary things. That’s God’s business.

All I know is that every human being on this earth needs to be rescued from Hell. Our Lord died to secure a place for us in Heaven. He founded a Church, the One True Church which is necessary for the salvation of souls.

If that’s not true, then everything we’re doing is a waste of time. Why should we fight so hard? Why should we hold so closely to tradition? Why should we struggle to stand against the flood of immorality and despair that engulfs the world? What does it matter? What’s the point? If there is salvation outside the Catholic Church, then we don’t have to do anything. Just jump right back in the Sea of Unknowing.

For myself, I’d rather be like my old friends, those valiant girls who first told me what I had to do to save my soul.

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      ????? If you don’t believe it why are you a Priest? You’ve paid the price? For what? Following Christ and obeying him? Grandma or their son may well be in Hell – it might shock them into praying for the dead – something I failed to do for decades. Why? Because Priests couldn’t be bothered telling us the truth. If we ignore that particular dogma, we may as well ignore the lot because ignoring it makes a joke of everything else. It doesn’t mean we can’t also remind people that, as I’ve been told on here a number of times, God is not bound by His own laws, which are for our benefit and spiritual good, so we may still HOPE and pray that everyone visibly outside the Church can still be saved by God, but that we should not ‘assume’ that because that is both spiritually dangerous and presumptious.

      I’m amazed I can still be gobsmacked by what Priests say but confess to getting a bit angry now (righteously, I believe) when I hear all the sob stories. which cover up what it simply a lack of belief/conviction/desire to do what a Priest should be doing – teaching the Faith and ALL its dogmas and doctrines.

      Prayers for you………

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      Don’t be taken in…Fr Harry….Potter….get it now?
      This guy has plainly not read, or chooses to ignore, the disturbing and tough bits of scripture. Jesus the long haired liberal wimp, not!
      Extra ecclesiam nulla salus is tough and shocking.
      Religion with ‘bite’ is like that.
      Some do seem to prefer the thin soup from CathLite.
      That sickly stuff that does little to nourish the soul.

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      I was giving him the benefit of the doubt on the name because, frankly, it wouldn’t surprise me any more if a Priest should choose Harry Potter, Harry Houdini or Dirty Harry. Sad thing is, it wouldn’t surprise me if he really is a Priest, which says it all, really.

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      “it might shock them into praying for the dead”.

      It also might shock people into praying for the living. How many souls might be saved if people prayed for those who are in a sinful state while they are still alive on this earth. We see a ton of people living lives that are objectively sinful but if we think everyone goes to Heaven anyway then we don’t pray for them. What’s the point, right? Well the point is that our prayers may get them back on the narrow path because God might answer our prayers for our sakes if not for theirs. Think St. Monica and St. Augustine – he credits her prayers with God turning his heart around. Perhaps if it was just Augustine God wouldn’t have bothered to send those extra graces his way – free will and all that. But the virtuous life Monica lived and her unceasing prayers for her son obviously touched God’s heart and I suspect it was for her sake that He broke through the young man’s obstinate will. It was pity for the father that caused Jesus to raise his daughter from the dead, compassion for the woman that caused Jesus to drive demons from her daughter, and reward for the centurion’s faith that caused Jesus to heal his servant.

      Like you, Heloisa, I didn’t pray for people, either living or dead, for decades Religious pushed the “God’s not bound by His own laws” mantras as a way to get to the “Everyone’s saved” schtick that effectively ends any reason to pray for anyone’s salvation, along with any reason to lead a moral life. I’m so cynical anymore about why all of this was done.

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      I agree with you completely, Annie. I didn’t pray for the living either for decades. I was just so angry last night – and still am this morning. It’s this kind of thinking that’s got us all in this mess. Whoever the poster is, he’s got Catholicism turned upside down and I’m wanting to reply to every sentence. Along the lines of:

      The truth isn’t nice and upsets people so better to give it a miss and let people stay in some false sort of ‘Catholicism’ in their own minds? We gain nothing from telling the truth? Jesus wasn’t compassionate when he kept repeating the truth? He wasn’t being ‘Catholic’ enough? He might as well have just made friends with those who couldn’t take it and have done with it? Hellfire sermons almost every other week?
      What do they get the other weeks? The Church of Nice? No wonder people can’t cope with it – sounds like a split personality giving sermons – who shall we get this week.

      This Priest is either having a very bad crisis of faith in which case HE need our prayers badly or he’s exactly what he claims not to be, ie ‘another liberal
      mistaken modern priest’.

      Yes, I’m still jumping up and down – think I’ve finally cracked! Aaaaagh! Pseudo-Trad Intellectuals? Jesus was a Pseudo-Trad Intellectual? Sounds like Pope Francis!

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      Sorry you had that experience. I was born in 1950 and the Catholic Church that I grew up in taught the reality of Heaven, Purgatory, and Hell but there was no “brimstone” attached to it. Catholics heard Bible stories at Mass but it was the Baltimore Catechism that generations of Catholics studied and mesmerized. There again, the description and truth of H, P, & H were spelled out but the nuns didn’t go on a rant about it. Lesson 37, Book 3 says it all. The information was presented in an almost clinical way. You read it; you memorized it. I know it like I know the multiplication tables. It’s like having an encyclopedia of dogma stuck in your head for life. Kids like to know what the rules are and God’s rules were spelled out for us in an almost impersonal way. Then came VII and out went the Catechism – interesting, that – and in came “Bible studies” with everyone interpreting what the stories meant – like our more enlightened Protestant brothers, don’tcha know. Now we have the bible stories minus the doctrine to guide us in interpreting them. Instead, our feelings are our guide and that’s gotten us “mercy” minus Truth which is no mercy at all.

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      So, what’s your actual problem with the article, then? You just don’t like one of the Catholic dogmas?

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        “Dogma should not be used as a tool of deconstructing faith,”

        So your take is that if a dogma causes someone to move his or her bum off your pews, it’s best to pass over that particular dogma and what exactly? See if another one fares better?

        I’ve realized why your posts are making me so angry, Father. Whilst I believe there are plenty of Priests out there who genuinely have no concept of True Catholicism because of bad catechesis/formation (which doesn’t excuse them not learning the Truth about Catholicism) you, on the other hand are publicly stating that you know what you should be teaching with regard to this dogma but think it should be kept under wraps to keep bums on seats.

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      Far better the ‘American Catholic’ vomit up the Truth than that Christ should vomit a Priest out of His mouth for being luke-warm.

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      Cool shades, Father!

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      When I was in school before VII, I felt safe and secure in the Faith. I knew it was the bedrock I could depend on.
      I am 69 years old. My first shock was in 1960 when the Third Secret of Fatima was not opened, as the Sisters who taught us it would be. They taught us it would be world changing…
      Downhill from there…
      I still wonder who was the “angel” who told John XXIII to call that abomination? Our Church has never been the same since.

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      I remember that. Not only the Sisters but parents talked about it. Anticipation, excitement! Then came the announcement that the secret would not be told. Something about the time not being right. About only certain people were supposed to see it. Huh? How could that be when Mary herself had said the Secret should be revealed to the world. By 1960. The Church defying Our Lady? She was to be disobeyed? It smacked of the Church protecting itself from what the letter said. You’re right, oldfogey, if was after that that the Second Vatican Council came into being and we live with the wreckage it has wrought. And all of the VII Popes have been in on it. That’s the harsh truth. I find it hard to even type that.

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      Being a ‘nice person’ is what the Catholic faith for the many has been reduced to.
      http://www.catholicherald.c…
      Occasional Mass going, liberal/secular neo-protestant sentimentality rules. It’s all about ‘lurv’ and not having to actually believe in anything, including God, Christ’s dual nature and other old fashioned stuff.
      Spot a gap God centred Islam might readily fill?

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      Francis says Hell doesn’t exist. Cardinal Pell says Adam and Eve weren’t real people. Cardinal Kasper said the Resurrection isn’t a real physical event. Anyone on the outside looking in would be inclined to ask; Do Catholics actually believe anything?

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      Here’s a clue:
      They’re few and far between in the FSSP and the SSPX…

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      The problem is the Church apparently believes in anything. Doctrine is downplayed and has been for a long while. It is outright mocked under Francis. With very few calling foul. The lack of core belief among the hierarchy – as we are witnessing by the tepid response among those few questioning Francis – is shocking but tells a tale.
      Gallup just released a poll on Mass attendance in the US. It has collapsed since 1955 when it was 75% to 45% in 2008 and finally a sharp decline during the last years of Benedict’s Papacy to today under Francis when it is 39%. At the same time, Protestant attendance at Sunday services has remained stable since the mid-2000s. So one can’t put the blame totally on the secularization of America as that would have impacted Protestant churchgoers too. Seminary numbers are falling sharply and have since 2012.
      This article informs and helps explain these stark numbers. If the Roman Rite of the Catholic Church continues to abandon doctrine more people will leave the Church. Francis and the hierarchy seem not to care. For believers struggling with all this the FSSP and other “Latin Mass” groups as well as the Eastern Rites provide an alternative. One in which doctrine is preached and the fullness of the faith is intact.

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      Dear Remnant, this is a soul-touching video after having walking to Chartres twice myself. It is an indescribable experience that truly wakes up our soft souls to WANT to give everything for GOD, and NOT OURSELVES. The world has forgotten, but WE have not. God bless you and save me a spot for Chartres 2019!

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      Great article. Depressing, yet terribly accurate. One of the things I found odd, as a new Catholic convert, was the prevelance of Notre Dame football talk among the Catholic men I met. When there was a decent homily, no one talked about it after-Mass, just football, or weather. And at the church suppers I attended, all the talk was secular. No table talk about Bible reading, nor anything God related, so I thought, Catholics have the Mass, but little else. The Assembly of God, my former denomination, didn’t have the truth of the Mass, but they were interested in Bible learning and about the life of Jesus.
      This article struck close to home. Our Church needs help desperately…

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      Yes, such men are Idolaters. Football is a Cult with each area having its local sub-cult (team) and patron deities (team stars).

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      It’s a caricature that Catholics were not allowed to read the Bible … but, but it was not heavily encouraged. I have older friends in their 80s who experienced the Church before V2 and they tell me that their parishes as a rule did not have Bible study. Or any real outreach by the laity to bring in converts. That was left to the priest. It’s an unfortunate thing but it appears to be a fairly valid picture of the Church in the 50s and 60s. Scott Hahn, who was an evangelical Protestant in the early 90s, focused on bringing young Catholics to “real” Christianity, sadly reports it was easy. Young Catholics had virtually no Biblical knowledge or ability to state and defend Catholic doctrines. This is why, since his conversion, his focus has been on teaching the Bible and the Biblical basis of Catholicism to as many Catholics, including seminarians and priests, as possible.

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      As someone earlier mentioned, Francis seems unconcerned and oblivious to these sentiments. His love doesn’t seem to extend to the rank and file, to the everyday struggling Catholic. He seems strangely intent on other things. Nor does he seem to care about the harm he is inflicting. But it’s far worse, in fact, I sence a deep disrespect, even a loathing, on his part, toward those that yearn for a closeness with Christ in the Mass, for Christ’s Mother, and our religion in general.

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      At the wedding of a niece of mine some years ago, I met an acquaintance of my (older) sister who had been raised Catholic pre-V2. She admitted quite honestly that she really didn’t know much about the Bible. It just wasn’t taught much to Catholic children when she was young (in distinction to the Biblically-oriented Protestant childhood my siblings and I had.)

      My father, a lifelong Protestant, had for a time been engaged to a Catholic woman before the engagement broke and he later met my mother (another lifelong Protestant). For a time he had been taking instructions from a priest, and he once said to me that the priest had told him, You want to know what the Bible says? You come ask me, and I’ll tell you. This was in the 1930s. (In other words, don’t go back to your Protestant ways and try to figure out the Bible for yourself.)

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      Has Hell frozen over? Isn’t this what rad trads have been saying for five years? Better late than never. Welcome, Michael V.
      https://www.churchmilitant….

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      Archbishop Lefebrve’s position is still absolutely correct all these years later. At some point- only God knows when- the Magisterium must address all of Vatican II and the Novus Ordo.

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      Isn’t it interesting to notice how far the SSPX has moved from the ideas of Lefebvre. Where Lefebvre said the Novus Ordo church is irreconcilable with Catholicism, we now have Bishop Fellay seeking a personal prelature with the most radical, Marxist, revolutionary pope the Church has ever seen.

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      Uh, no. The Pope is still the head of the Church, right? When he asks to meet, you meet. Has Bishop Fellay signed the agreement? No. And if and when he signs something, it will be with the backing of the SSPX’s General Council. But I suppose you’ll tell me that it’s under Bishop Fellay’s control.

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      Yes, I have also noticed the same thing.

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      The Enemy now occupies the highest positions in the Church, including right at the top. Since 1965 the faith has not been preached from any pulpits of the Novus Ordo Church. There are still a few – pitifully few – real Catholics left: Most of them associate with Society of St Pius X.

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      SSPX isn’t the only option for traditional Catholics, thankfully. There are other independent priests and organizations that offer traditional Catholic Masses. Without getting mired down in a sede/R-R dialogue, there may be other options for you.

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      I was depressed with what seemed a bleak future for the church. Then I went to a Latin Mass at Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest, read about Priests of St. Cantius, and the seminary near Lincoln, Ne. SPPV (?). All embrace the Latin Mass! Seminaries are filling with vocations! Then I read about youth who are exploring the TLM and getting hooked with passion and enthusiasm about it. Latin Mass parishes growing! But the one thing that really gave me new hope for the Church is a youth group called JUVENTUTEM, which embraces the love for the Latin Mass! It is world wide and growing! The Archbishop of Portland, Oregon is another positive joy for the future of the Church! I expect a rebirth and flowering of the Church! We just have to be patient. Architecture will be restored, beautiful sacred art will return, Gregorian chant, and beautiful music. Communion rails will return. Reverence will be the norm again.

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      I love your enthusiasm! I believe the same thing. Those who are very liberal will be given the opportunity to join us, or continue in their stubborn NO ways and, well, we can pray for them, but they will have to make a choice. I am a convert and so excited to be in the RCC. I know the doctrines, the dogmas, the traditions of the Church (thanks to the Baltimore Catechism) and can explain them to anyone. You have to know your faith, sisters and brothers. It is gratifying to tell others of the glory and magnificence of Jesus’ true Church. God expects us to be his hands and feet in the Kingdom. We have to learn our faith, and be able to clearly define it. I have been called medieval in my understanding (mostly because I veil at Mass) but the teachings are the true Church, not a secular one. Let’s shed the culture and enjoy and embrace the one true faith!! Blessings!

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      I have one question. If the SSPX seminaries have a full enrollment, why do we not see more SSPX chapels across the world?

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      There are 590 priests in 175 priories in 62 countries. The missionary plan set up by Abp. Lefebvre means that priests generally live in a community during the week and then travel to their chapels for masses. Perhaps there would be different benefits of having 590 priests stationed at 590 different priories, but Abp. Lefebvre felt strongly that the priests should have a life in common where they could become spiritually strong for their apostolates.

      Also, his missionary idea is based on what he did as a bishop in Africa: establish a priory with many priests that feeds priests to the small chapels. Ideally, the priory should have a school, which will foster more vocations. Over time, the small chapels grow bigger and become their own priories and, eventually, they have their own schools from which come more vocations, which leads to more chapels, priories, schools, vocations.

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      There’s over 600 priests now and 16 more will be ordained by the end of June but yes, the need is great.

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      Multi sunt vocati, pauci vero electi. The Church–the True Church–is already very small. All the rest just occupy traditional Catholic real estate. Starting with the pope, they are all not true Catholics. They are not the Church. What is left of the Church is a remnant. They remained faithful to the traditional Church even after the horror of VII. Thank you, Archbishop Lefebvre and the rest of the few.

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      The beginning of wisdom is fear of the Lord — so, if we let people know there is a good reason to fear the Lord — that we have to work out our salvation in fear and trembling — that is a good way to bring people back to the true faith.

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      A sobering thought is this,everyone who has ever lived,who is living today,and who will ever live until the end of the world,that the majority of souls are DAMNED! who said that? the Church Fathers said that! basing their belief on scripture and Our Lord’s words. so how in the name of Heaven can ANYONE take their salvation so lightly?

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      When men lose his faith, why should he bother about salvation?
      He is then not even thinking about that, let alone fighting for it.

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      Sometimes at the Novus Ordo parish I do hear “go to confession” but never, ever about what is sin or why to go to confession. I attended a TLM last Sunday and heard about sin and about the devil, the world, and the flesh and what temptation is and where is can come from. Just a totally different outlook at most TLMs. In November we heard about Heaven, Hell, Judgment, and Purgatory at the TLM. Nothing like that at the TLM where just the readings are sort of reread but without much extrapolation.

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      Hi Susan! Thank you for your wonderful “turn on a word”. Adds to the certitude. I’ll be reading it to my children at lunch. “the Changes”. Love it! Where are the catechism changes? Where are the good books? Where are the unedited books? They’re hard to find. And getting harder considering “editions”.

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      Tan and Sophia Institute Press have old, solid books–I’ve often found used “out of print” Catholic books on Amazon.

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      Well said, Susan:

      “Why won’t the Magisterium clear the fog? Why won’t the priests and bishops just say: Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation. Scared, are they? Afraid to offend the infidels? Or worse, have they lost the Faith?”

      In fact, some of the high and mighty in the Church are saying the exact opposite:

      1) The Papal Preacher telling the Holy Father back in 2002 that all religions are willed by God:

      http://www.traditioninactio…

      2) The Pope’s alleged ghostwriter, Archbishop Vincent Fernandez, who declares flat out that everyone is saved:

      http://the-american-catholi…

      3) The head of the CDF, Archbishop (soon to be Cardinal!!) Luis Ladaria, explains in this 2008 book how God acts in a mysterious way through other religions. As he is a Jesuit, he puts in a few token lines about the possibility of damnation, but he is plainly willing to consider even the salvation of Old Nick and all the fallen angels.

      https://www.amazon.co.uk/Je…

      4) Father Gerry O’Collins also seems keen on Universal Salvation. By an amazing coincidence, his book was also published in 2008. And, by an even more amazing coincidence, he is also a Jesuit. They must be putting something in the coffee at Jesuit social gatherings.

      https://global.oup.com/acad…

      https://muse.jhu.edu/articl…

      5) Best of all, even Martin Luther can smell that Pope Francis is a “raging Universalist” (at the 47 seconds mark). A less than respectful contribution from the Lutheran satirists:

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